tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971056620589763574.post579700354622331536..comments2019-01-26T13:22:55.918+00:00Comments on Just Festival News: A world without religion?Simon Barrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05366440538616508935noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971056620589763574.post-85638781616608353922013-08-13T17:06:09.278+01:002013-08-13T17:06:09.278+01:00Hamishw1
I've read through the report above an...Hamishw1<br />I've read through the report above and find a great deal of good sense in the remarks made, but since I believe that from the moment our DNA appeared in nature, there was an inherent, unconscious aspiration to transcend the need for religion grounded in theology, the remarks were all too wedded to the preservation of traditional conceptions. A few points may be added.<br /><br />My remarks are meant to note the identification of religion with Christianity one of the more benign of the the traditional forms, and unfortunately therefore, there was more agreement than if other, less benign forms had come in for consideration. But do bear in mind, the very meaning of 'benign' is highly conditioned by the tradition that formed your basic ideas about the world, and this underscores in my view (an ex-Christian by birth but now an utterly concrete atheist) the special pleading that in civilized surroundings is endemic. <br /><br />As soon at the surroundings become less than comfortably homogenous, differences begin to intensify until deep, insurmountable divisions become the realistic basis.<br /><br />I do not believe these doctrinal differences can ever be overcome, and in the sort of world we live in they become the justification for the worst possible human atrocities; Rwanda through ex-Yugoslavia Srilanka, Iraq, Iran, Israel, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Burma today and conflicts in a thousand registers elsewhere. These atrocities are usually grounded in economic issues, but the defining response is most usually mediated through ideologies derived from religious loyalties, there is no prospect whatsoever that as peaceful world can emerge into effect.<br /><br />All ideologies are grounded ultimately in theology and the rituals that follow from them, and although I cannot take sides with Dawkin, there will never be a peaceful world until the unconscious aspiration to surpass traditional religion has succeeded. I believe I have provided the outline of how the overcoming was etched into the pre-civilized paganism that has finally emerged into its modern, non-mystical version, through the medium of Hegel's speculative idealism. I would be happy to forward some of the material to any interested parties who'd wish to engage the possibility of "A world without Religion !!! "<br /><br />Finally one should not confuse 'religion' the tendency to communality with traditional religion.<br /><br />Best wishes,<br />Hamish Watson See www.totaltheory.com <br /><br /><br /><br /> <br /><br /><br /><br /> <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971056620589763574.post-10177964351636793512013-08-12T12:58:14.746+01:002013-08-12T12:58:14.746+01:00Thanks, Simon, for this incredible summary! It'...Thanks, Simon, for this incredible summary! It'll serve as a very useful supplement to my own notes of the event.Fayaz S Alibhainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971056620589763574.post-85813578406379054782013-08-09T11:29:44.808+01:002013-08-09T11:29:44.808+01:00I meant 'follow up' in the sense of anythi...I meant 'follow up' in the sense of anything you want to say after the event, Tim, not a report... :) Happy to give you a platform, in other words. Maybe we could run something past New Humanist, too? Just a thought. Simon Barrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05366440538616508935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971056620589763574.post-26954081372171782282013-08-08T13:34:49.694+01:002013-08-08T13:34:49.694+01:00Thanks for the invitation Simon, but as I was busy...Thanks for the invitation Simon, but as I was busy thinking and talking, I wasn't taking notes, so I'll pass this time.Tim Maguire, Celebrate Peoplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07746107888549689933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971056620589763574.post-1847788644391551942013-08-07T14:57:56.616+01:002013-08-07T14:57:56.616+01:00Thanks, Tim. I have included your comment above. N...Thanks, Tim. I have included your comment above. No intention to miss it - but an awful lot was said and it was hard to get all of it 'live'. Do let me know if you'd like to write a follow-up article. That would be great. :)Simon Barrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05366440538616508935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971056620589763574.post-68959666337775873182013-08-07T10:28:54.779+01:002013-08-07T10:28:54.779+01:00Thanks for this Simon - as you say here http://www...Thanks for this Simon - as you say here http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/18735 it is a bit one-sided, and I think you might at least have acknowledged my take on secularism, that it's not only the best guarantee of freedom of belief and the freedom from the domination of a single belief, but also the active acceptance of the idea that religion should have a public voice but not a privileged one.Tim Maguire, Celebrate Peoplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07746107888549689933noreply@blogger.com